Pocket Jacks

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1. • Posted by Nick L 2008-05-01 15:10:12
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   • I came across a situation that I was in last week in the cash game. 4 handed in the BB I picked up with the blinds at 25/50 cents Matt makes it $1.75 to go, Addison raises to $4.00 Jonas calls. I decided to re raiseall in with my $50.00 plus stack. Matt folded Addison calls and Jonas folds as well, Addison calls and flips over give me some feedback on how you would have played it out and I will tell u next week what happend.

2. • Posted by Pokermom 2008-05-01 15:40:40
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   • I would put Matt on an ace, so I understand Addison's re-raise with big slick but I wouldn't have called your over the top all in with AK unless I had a huge stack and was on a rush. However, Addison did.

     Since I usually lose with JJ (at lease 50/50), if I were you, I would have simply called the $4 and saw a flop. However, if the JJ held up, your push paid off handsomely. If you called, and any overcard hit the flop, you could have gotten away from your hand with a $4 investment (unless you picked up a draw as well).

     Addison didn't have a made hand but he was sure he had 2 overcards and likely put you on a pair other than KK or AA. Even with putting Matt on an ace, that leaves him with 5 outs with 5 cards coming. Not a risk I would take, but I guess it depends on how big Addison's stack was at the time. If $50 was 1/3 of his stack and he was up for the night, I could see him entering a race.

     So, it depends on more variables than discussed in your original post. How big were the stacks? Was anyone on a rush? Anyone steaming? Did you just bluff a hand? Do you normally push with a pair?

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3. • Posted by Jason M 2008-05-01 16:55:17
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   • I briefly chatted with Nick on the phone about this hand. He says that the game is fairly live, and Jonas is especially inclined to call Addison for various reasons. It sounded like Nick and Addison had the larger stacks.

     My gut reaction would be to raise to 16. Serious players only, please. If you are up against aces or kings, they raise all in and you can fold. If Addison in particular reraises all in, you may want to be more inclined to call, due to the reputation. I mentioned this to Nick, and he said he expected Addison to reraise if he made that kind of raise, and he would rather be the aggressor. Makes sense, but I don't really like flipping coins for my stack :/

     That means I reluctantly agree to just call. In tournaments, I try to play jacks like they are eights. That's an exaggeration, but the potential to overvalue them is just too great. This isn't a tournament, but I think the reasoning still works. If you just call and the flop hits you, you are set. If the flop is ragged, you have to decide if you're up against an overpair or lower trips, but you are probably good. If an A-Q comes down, you can get away for a minimal investment.

     If you had all the money in the world, and thought there was only a 1-2% chance you were up against an overpair, pushing all in is definitely profitable in the long run, especially if everybody folds most of the time. I just don't know if you can safely say you aren't up against AA, KK, or QQ. I guess I'd need to do some math :p

4. • Posted by Nick L 2008-05-10 12:15:23
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   • How the hand played out was, I ended up turning a flush draw but didn't catch up. I made my money back and a little bit more that night. I learned that I believe that move is the correct move given the situation. If you just call the original raise and if you do set up or if a rag board comes then it is good but if high cards come then man your stuck!!.

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